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That's audible.com slash Wondery UK. Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.

This is Kathy Canning Mello, former profiler, retired FBI agent.

And here with me is my dear friend. Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI agent. And here with me is my dear friend.

Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler and former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer

of criminal minds and Bluebeard, as well as co-hosting with Kathy Canning, FBI Profilers'

Criminal Archives on Audible. And with us today, we have a returning guest, a very

special guest, and that is... Hi, I'm Lisa Peterson. I am a writer and an author from Newtown, Connecticut.

Well, it's great to have you back, Lisa. And we've been talking about the Helly Crafts case, which is unfortunately notoriously known as the Woodchipper murder.

And that case had a lot of ups and downs.

And now we're going to talk about a different case.

But it has some very, very disturbing, coincidental similarities to the Helicraft's case.

Yes, the similarities between the Helicrafts case and the Regina Brown case go way beyond the fact

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