553: Reaching Withdrawers

Brave Love Great Sex – Couples Therapy Podcast

Cloud10

Sexuality, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.6 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Welcome Brave Lovers! In today's episode we are discussing reaching withdrawers through the body. When the withdrawer is anticipating something negative, they become activated, freeze and fall into a shame spiral. This shame spiral causes distance in the partnership and is a step in the negative cycle. Creating body awareness, and identifying what feelings are present can help withdrawers slow down and stay engaged. Listeners will learn how to do this today using the acronym ROC. R-elax, O-pen up, C-onnect. George guides the audience through, how to relax, opening up and getting curious, and connecting with others on your experience. This practice builds the skills of self-awareness, regulation and improved communication in relationships. How can you use ROC in your life? Let us know on our instagram @BraveLoveGreatSex and don't forget to pre-order a copy of our book by the same name! Check out Owen Marcus's organization Meld to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Desirey Endries and I'm the host of your new favorite podcast, Minimalish.
0:05.4	Minimalish is a podcast about making room for what matters in your life by living with less of what
0:10.6	doesn't matter and more of what does and pursuing intention in every area of our everyday lives.
0:16.2	We talk about a realistic version of minimalism that fits your family.
0:20.2	We talk about motherhood, family life,
0:22.4	work, decluttering, intentional finances, and everything in between. Listen to Minimalish on the IHeart
0:28.3	app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The following content is not suitable for children.
0:34.2	Okay, George, you got to help us get through to these withdrawers. Give us a way that we can
0:40.8	reach them when they don't respond to us. We all need reaching, Lori. Welcome to the Brave Love
0:46.9	Great Sex Podcast. I'm Dr. Lori Watson, licensed couple and certified sex therapist. And I'm George
0:53.1	Fowler, couples therapist, EFT trainer, and retired New York City firefighter.
0:58.1	In every relationship, love requires bravery, especially to turn towards each other when there is a lot of fighting and defensiveness.
1:06.6	We want to help you stay present with each other sexually as well.
1:10.4	Both emotional connection and erotic intimacy are the bedrock of couple security.
1:15.4	Brave love, great sex is where we help you reconnect, repair, and reignite desire to help create
1:22.6	the secure, lasting love we all deserve.
1:25.6	Find our book by the same name.
1:27.3	Brave love, great sex.
1:28.8	Okay, our book is coming out, September 15th.
1:33.0	We keep pimping it, but we're doing that because we need your help.
1:35.9	So we believe it's going to make a big difference.
1:39.2	And every little pre-order helps move it up the list, right, Lori?
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