It's time for episode 553 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM, recorded Wednesday, May 8th, 2024.

Clockwise, Four People, Four or this week, Rosemary.

But we do have time.

My name is Dan Moran, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, my co-host,

the one and only Micah Sargent.

How are you doing today, Micah?

I'm doing well, Dan. I started to read the intro earlier this morning, and then I was like, oh, I got it.

It's funny.

But I didn't see the part about Rosemary.

That was very good.

I love it. For those who don't know, Rosemary Orchard sat in last week for Micah. So there's the, I'm going to explain my joke and thus make it completely unfunny now. So we're right on track for clockwise. Well, this is, of course, the show where we invite on two fantastic and smart people to talk about Foretick topics to my left this week, returning to clockwise as a technology reporter from the Washington Post.

It's Heather Kelly.

Welcome back, Heather.

Thank you for having me again.

And to my left, it's, you know, just a software visionary.

It's Guy English.

Welcome back to the show, Guy.

I regret putting that under form.

It's a joke.

It's great to be here.

All right.

I'm going to kick things off this week.

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