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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.6 • 34.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and journalist Megyn Kelly dissect the cultural and psychological forces reshaping modern gender dynamics—particularly the rising unhappiness among young women, the suppression of traditional masculinity, and the consequences of empathy-driven institutions. They explore maternal overreach, the devaluation of motherhood, the politicization of victimhood, and the unintended fallout of feminism’s gains in the corporate and academic world. This episode unpacks how men and women are drifting further apart—politically, emotionally, and biologically—and asks whether modern society is equipped to repair the divide wrought by extreme feminism. This episode was filmed on May 28th, 2025. There’s nothing more difficult—or more important—than raising a child. In this new 5-part series, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson brings decades of clinical insight to the questions every parent faces: discipline, identity, responsibility, and what it truly means to guide a child toward a meaningful life. Available now, exclusively on DailyWire+ https://www.dailywire.com/show/parenting | Links | For Megyn Kelly: On X https://x.com/megynkellyshow?lang=en On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@MegynKelly Website https://www.megynkelly.com/

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0:00.0

Half of Western women, 30 and under, have no child.

0:04.0

Half of them will never have a child, and 90% of them will regret it.

0:08.0

This is a catastrophe.

0:10.0

Your life will be happier if you have a partner and children.

0:14.0

That's just true.

0:15.0

And people should be told that, and then they should be told the realities of fertility.

0:19.0

But in my case, Jordan, from that day to this,

0:22.2

I've always loved working.

0:24.4

I love it.

0:25.7

It's totally exciting and interesting and intellectually stimulating to me,

0:31.2

and I cannot imagine not doing this.

0:34.3

We do potentially have a major societal issue in that men have their pathologies that are

0:42.6

expressed socially, aggression, antisocial behavior, drug and alcohol abuse, but there's

0:48.9

no reason to assume whatsoever that women wouldn't bring their own pathologies to the workplace.

0:53.8

I've seen women behaving terribly over the past five years in particular, and they're at the apex

0:59.5

of the bad messaging. They're obsessed with abortion, which I just think speaks to a lot of things,

1:04.6

like the absence of religion in the public square. So I just think the whole system is set up

1:08.8

to breed that kind of woman.

1:25.2

Music So just think the whole system is set up to breed that kind of woman. It's become mandatory in our culture to assume that the feminist movement has elevated women to the status that they now enjoy.

1:34.4

I'm not so sure about that. I think that technological transformation and plumbing has had a lot more to do with that than ideological movement, let's say,

1:45.9

especially one based on resentment.

1:47.6

But in any case, it is the case that women occupy a position in society that was unheard of

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