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is a positive thing I think that may be missing in the architect's profession so I definitely recommend doing that.

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Today, I am joined by Marcos Centaanna, architect and general contractor at Alloy in Los Angeles, California.

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Marcos, thanks for taking the time to join me today.

No problem. Thanks for having me.

So I am in the hinterlands of Wisconsin, and it is currently blizzarding with dumping 12 inches of snow and howling 20-mile-an-hour winds.

What's it like in L.A. right now?

It's like an iceberg. 40 degrees. Everybody's bundles up. Terrible, yeah. So we feel your pain in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, that's about the

same kind of weather for you, right? That's pretty abnormal. Yeah, rarely gets this cold, but it's been a

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