#552 Lauren Bright Pacheco with Robert Bintz

Wrongful Conviction

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True Crime

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In August 1987, the body of 44-year-old single mother of two, Sandra Lison, was found in the Machickanee Forest in Green Bay, WI. She went missing from her bar the night prior. An autopsy showed that she was strangled and evidence suggested she was raped. Investigators interviewed the bar’s patrons, including brothers, 32-year-old David Bintz and 31-year-old Robert Bintz. No evidence suggested their, or anyone else’s involvement, and the case went cold for four years. In 1991, Lison’s purse was found 40 miles south of where her body was found. Yet, the case went cold again for the next seven years. Meanwhile, David was incarcerated for an unrelated crime, and a fellow inmate reported hearing David, who is intellectually disabled, sleep-talking about Lison’s death, apparently talking about killing her with his brother. This so-called confession gave investigators the lead they needed to arrest David and Robert. Once in custody, David confessed to the crime while simultaneously stating that he was at home at the time and not involved. What’s more – DNA evidence exonerated David and Robert from the rape before trial. The prosecution just changed their theory though, and David and Robert were convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

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0:00.0	This episode of wrongful conviction contains discussion of sexual assault.
0:04.2	Please listen with caution and care.
0:08.8	At 5 a.m. on August 3, 1987, at the Good Times Tavern in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
0:16.0	the opening bartender discovered that the lights were still on.
0:19.8	The safe was open and empty. And the previous
0:23.3	night's bartender, Sandra Lyon, her car was still in the parking lot. The following day,
0:30.0	her body was discovered in a forest, about 30 miles north of Green Bay. She had been fatally strangled,
0:36.6	and semen was collected in a rape kit.
0:39.7	Investigators interviewed people who had gone to the tavern that night, including 31-year-old
0:44.2	Bobby Bence, along with his brother, David. The case went cold for nearly 12 years, until David
0:50.1	Bence was in prison for an unrelated crime and allegedly confessed to his cellmate that he'd killed Sandra Lycine with his brother, Bobby.
0:59.0	This is wrongful conviction.
1:06.0	The Fox Foundation is proud to support this episode of wrongful conviction and the work of
1:12.1	after innocence, a nonprofit that helps hundreds of people nationwide rebuild their lives
1:17.1	after wrongful incarceration. Each year, innocent people are released after spending years behind
1:23.1	bars for crimes they didn't commit. Nearly all of them leave prison with nothing more than the
1:28.4	clothes on their backs, with no help or compensation from the state as they face the steep
1:33.3	challenges of rebuilding their lives after wrongful imprisonment. After Innocence is changing that.
1:39.8	After Innocence helps exoneries get and make good use of essential services like health care,
1:46.0	dental care, mental health support, legal aid, financial counseling, and more. Since 2016, they've brought
1:53.1	that help to more than 800 exoneries across 46 states, working tirelessly to ensure that no one
2:00.6	released after wrongful incarceration is left behind.
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