Welcome to the Jay Scott Outdoors podcast. Today we have Cliff Gray of Flattop's Wilderness

Guides. Cliff, how you doing? Good, thanks for having me, Jay.

Yeah, I look forward to having you on here.

Sounds like you got a little bit of the Colorado Crud.

I know I was sick at the Western Hunting Expo or afterwards I should say and you're up there

I know in that gypsum Colorado area and sounds like you've got a little bit of the crud.

Are you on the men?

Yeah yeah I'm on the upswing I just picked it up for my kids it seems like everybody

around here has got it but your listeners will probably have to bear with a little coughing and in the microphone, but at least it won't come through the speakers and get them, I'm sure, but it should be good. But no, I'm on that swing you know how it is right what do they say

mountain climbers look the worst on the on the descent right so I'm almost

that I just sound the worst that it's been so far. So where are we at with conditions up there? I left a week or so ago and

lots and lots of snow looking like a great year. Man, we've needed it up there, it's been dry.

Tell us what's going on.

Yeah, so I would say, you know, if you look at the last five or six years,

this is for sure the heaviest snowpack that I've seen at least in this part of the mountains.

You know, we were coming off probably the least I'd seen in my whole life so you know in

2018 so it's good like we for sure needed the water you know the last like two or

three weeks we've had big we've had big melt off too, so I think the winter range is, you know, okay.

I yesterday I was up at the ranch and there's quite a few meal deer down low and they seem to be like good body

condition. The only thing I can think of, you know, I just don't know what will end up happening

is if you looked at the brows and stuff going into

in the winter in like late fall there's just very little growth on it because it was

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