For five years, I've done a camp in the summer called Camp Building.

It's with the Girl Scouts that brings girls from kindergarten through high school in for camp

for a number of days where they do hands-on construction projects.

The first year we had kindergartner's spot welding, which sounds terrifying, but was so

amazing.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, a regular discussion with building industry

professionals.

This is Fine Home Building, Contributing Editor and Production Manager at TDS Custom

Construction, Ian Schwant.

Today, I am joined by Sandy Thistle and David Abrae.

You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast and the original Fine Home Building podcast at

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Sandy and David, great to have you on. Thanks for joining us.

Thank you so much. So glad to be here.

So today we have an instructor from the Madison College Carpentry and Remodeling Program here with us in Sandy, and we have one of the graduates who's gone on to a nearly decade

or approaching decade career in the business, right, David?

Yes, sir.

Yep, yep.

Sandy, can you give us an overview of the carpentry program at Madison College,

just some background of how it started and what it offers students like David and program goals?

Yes, so the construction and remodeling program at

Madison College has been around for quite some time long before I was ever here. I'll talk about

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