55: Matt Heimbach, Anti-Racist???
I Don't Speak German
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3.9 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 9 June 2020
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
In this episode Daniel and Jack take another look at Matt Heimbach, formerly of the Traditionalist Workers Party and National Socialist Movement, and his supposed turn to anti-racism.
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Notes and Links:
Matt Heimbach SPLC. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/matthew-heimbach
SPLC article 'Two Prominent Neo-Nazis Recant, but Their Actions Sow Doubts' https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/05/14/two-prominent-neo-nazis-recant-their-actions-sow-doubts
Everything You Love Will Burn. https://www.amazon.com/Everything-You-Love-Will-Burn/dp/1568589948
Vice White Student Union documentary (from 2013). https://youtu.be/GJ_MHp8iqtQ
Matt Heimbach assaults woman at Trump rally 2016. https://youtu.be/-YeYZtXHo8E
Kelly Weill article on Night of Wrong Wives. https://www.thedailybeast.com/matthew-heimbachs-traditional-workers-party-implodes-over-love-triangle-turned-trailer-brawl
Matt Heimbach joins Light Upon Light. https://youtu.be/w4DGkvsJLP8
Light Upon Light Upon Light (independent blog critical of LuL.) https://lightuponlightuponlight.home.blog
Take A Walk On the Right Side podcast. https://anchor.fm/take-a-walk-on-the-right-side
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Relevant previous episodes:
Episode 8: The National Socialist Movement
Episode 28: The Siege Pill, Part 1
Episode 29: The Siege Pill, Part 2
Episode 3: Unite the Right, Part 1
Episode 4: Unite the Right, Part 2
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Jack's splenetic ramblings on J. K. Rowling, Part 1, Part 2, review of Fantastic Beasts 2
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to I don't speak German the anti-fascist podcast in which I Jack Graham and my friend Daniel Harper have conversations about the far rights conversations. |
| 0:10.0 | Every episode comes with a big content warning. |
| 0:13.0 | And welcome to episode 55 of I don't speak German. |
| 0:17.0 | I'm Jack Graham, he-him, as usual, |
| 0:19.0 | and I'm here as usual with Daniel Harper also he him hi Daniel |
| 0:25.2 | hi jac I'm glad we're doing pronoun checks now |
| 0:28.0 | it was kind of it was kind of a gag that we did in the last one but I think it's worthwhile yeah |
| 0:33.8 | pro no I it only make gag as far as I was concerned so sure you've just |
| 0:38.6 | out of yourself well we just stole it from another podcast but I think it's worth doing and ultimately it's gonna make the Nazis real mad at us |
| 0:46.9 | so I think that's probably the best way to go about this. |
| 0:50.3 | Well that's that's the best reason for doing anything. |
| 0:52.4 | Yeah now I think all podcast Well that's the best reason for doing anything. |
| 0:56.6 | Yeah, no, I think all podcasts should do pronoun checks at the start. I actually, I asked around before I started, you know, did the thing where you put he, him, or whatever your pronouns are in my Twitter bio because I sort of I am I just feel like I am so obviously just a cis man you know |
| 1:11.1 | But I said you know I around, should I do this? |
| 1:13.7 | And people would generally, yeah, you should do it, so I do it now. |
| 1:16.5 | So yeah. |
| 1:17.5 | So there you go. |
| 1:18.5 | Well, it's just a, it's just a marker respect ultimately. |
| 1:20.4 | It's a mark of like, you know, the whole point is like passing and not passing and sort of like, you know, like I had somebody who I respect, you know, kind of a couple of years ago kind of talked to me about like, well, why would you do that, isn't it, like, isn't that kind of like, you know, I've never really had a problem telling who is and is not a trance? |
| 1:42.2 | And I said, are you sure? |
| 1:44.0 | Yeah, because that's, and that's ultimately the point of like, you know, |
| 1:48.0 | you put your pronouns in and you sense, |
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