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Done & Dunne

55. An Interlude With Gloria Swanson and Joe Kennedy

Done & Dunne

Hemlock Creatives

True Crime, History

4.7630 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we pause briefly within our Marilyn Monroe episodes to investigate the affair of Gloria Swanson and Joseph P. Kennedy. This liaison creates an example for the Kennedy boys that will factor into their treatment of their wives and mistresses in the coming years.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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slash setup welcome to done and done I'm Alicia your hostess on this podcast journey

0:35.3

all things Dominic Dunn where nothing is linear and everything

0:39.9

is connected. And today's story is a perfect example. I know we're in the middle of our Marilyn Monroe

0:46.4

mirror ball episodes, but friends, the whole scene that's coming up next with Marilyn and ultimately

0:52.9

her relationship with the Kennedy brothers.

0:56.0

But all of that history that we're investigating was shaped so long ago because the Kennedy boys

1:04.0

learned it by watching their father. Dominic Dunn will write a ton about the Kennedys during his career, but it is this story intersected at exactly the right moment in our Maryland arc of episodes that I think provides a bit of insight into our future happenings.

1:23.1

This is the tale of Gloria Swanson and Joe Kennedy. Let's investigate.

1:29.5

We have talked about Patricia Kennedy, wife of Peter Lawford, in this current arc.

1:52.6

But the Kennedy girls have it very different than the Kennedy boys.

1:58.6

There are two completely different sets of rules. How do we get to the Kennedy kids? We have to

2:05.4

connect Rose Fitzgerald and Joseph Kennedy, and there's no trashy affair for Joe, many of them,

2:12.9

without the infamous marriage first. Joseph Patrick Kennedy, born September 6th, 1888. He's Irish American.

2:22.1

He's born in Boston, Massachusetts. Big dreams Joe has. His dad, PJ, is a politician and businessman,

2:29.6

so I suppose Joe learned it by watching his dad, too, but Joe wants to be a millionaire.

2:36.6

He's on the make.

2:38.0

He will attend prestigious schools, including the Boston Latin School, where he plays baseball

2:43.1

and he's class president.

2:45.3

Joe will then move on to Harvard, where he is a member of the Hasty Pudding Club graduating

2:50.6

in 1912.

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