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Hello and welcome to Ultimate Health podcast episode 549. I'm Jesse Chapus and I'm here to take your health to the next level. Each week I'll bring you long form conversations with health and wellness leaders from around the world. This week I'm chatting with Dr. Christi Kessler. Dr. K as a radiation oncologist turned metabolic health practitioner. She worked with cancer patients and radiation oncology for over 20 years.

In the Chicago land area, but realized many years ago that something was missing from conventional medicine. Dr. Kess saw the big link between obesity and cancer, but then realized that the real link was between mitochondrial health and metabolic function and she pursued additional self learning and metabolic health.

She did additional studies in the fields of functional medicine, integrative medicine and the terrain theory of cancer. Dr. K opted to leave conventional medicine to work exclusively in metabolic health via telehealth. She now helps both cancer patients and non cancer patients regain their optimal health.

With the pervasiveness of cancer in today's world, this conversation is very important. Be sure and stick around and take this in.

Highlights include how normal cells develop into cancer cells, plant-based diets versus ketogenic diets for fighting cancer, due process meets cause cancer, cancer causing foods to eliminate and practical advice for cancer prevention.

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Without further ado, here we go with Dr. Christi Kessler.

As we go through our conversation, we're going to really take some time and get into prevention and treatment of cancer.

But I think as a baseline to get us all on the same page, a good place to kick off is to talk about the physiology of a normal cell turning into a cancer cell.

Let's start there and we'll build from there.

So in cells, we can burn a lot of different fuels per fuel, right? We can use our sugars when sugar is around our glucose.

We can use fatty acid. So cells are really robust in what they can do, but where does that energy production happen? It's in the mitochondria of cells.

And mitochondria actually kind of dictate what's going on in that cell. When they start to get stressed out or damaged for some reason, they actually start to send out some stress signals.

Even to the nucleus, which can tell the nucleus you're a different cell now. You need to do things differently.

So as mitochondria become more and more damaged, they tend to now instead of using mainly fatty acids for fuel, they convert more to using an anaerobic pathway.

So even though oxygen might be around, they start to burn glucose preferentially and they need more and more of it to sustain themselves.

So it kind of the cell transitions into the every man for themselves type of cell.

When we're cells are healthy, we're all living in a community. We're doing our jobs, we're, you know, the liver cells are doing what liver cells need to do.

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