#548: UNRECONCILED

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Jim and Kathy speak with Jay Sefton and Joelle Casteix about Jay’s One Man Play - Unreconciled - showing at the Moving Arts Theater in Los Angeles March 21st to 31st. It’s a compelling and entertaining show that’s a mashup of Baby Reindeer meets Spotlight.

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0:00.0	Hey, before we get going, I wanted to tell everybody about a great new podcast. It's called
0:17.5	Undermestimated. And it's being done by a group of high school investigative
0:22.0	journalists.
0:23.6	These are students of my good friend Bob Ruff, and these students have already worked on one
0:30.8	case, and they're into their second case now, and this is the Skelton Brothers case.
0:36.6	These three young brothers, Andrew, Alexander, and Tanner, they all went missing without a trace on November 26, 2010.
0:46.3	And these students are now looking into the case to try to help move the case forward because it has been unsolved. But they have some really good information and taking listeners through this whole process with them.
1:03.0	It's just amazing.
1:04.1	You've got to listen to it.
1:05.8	Underestimated podcast.
1:08.7	Bob Ruff is putting this together with his journalism class and these students do everything.
1:16.4	And it's, it's, you really got to listen to it. All right. Well, let's get into our episode.
1:23.8	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City Prosecutor, and writer-producer of Criminal Minds, and Bluebeard on Audible. And with me today is Kathy Canning Mello, retired FBI profiler and co-host of the Audible podcast FBI Profilers Criminal Archives. And today I'm super pleased to introduce to you to very special guests.
1:48.4	Jay Sefton, I am the co-author and performer of Unreconciled.
1:54.7	And what is it unreconsiled? It's a solo play autobiographical about my experience as I was cast as Jesus in an eighth grade
2:05.3	passion play by a priest who was later defrocked for the abuse of the kids playing Jesus in his passion play.
2:13.2	All right. And?
2:15.8	Joelle Castex. And I am a survivor of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, and have spent the past 20-plus years as an advocate and spokesperson for other survivors, demanding legislative change and justice in the courts.
2:29.0	And you're also an author, aren't you?
2:30.7	I'm also an author. I've written three books on child protection and survivor support.
2:35.9	Well, we're going to need to talk about what those three books are. So we'll get right into that after we
2:42.7	talk about the reason why we're here today. And that is, Kathy reached out to me after she saw Jay's play.
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