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You're listening to Believe You Me with Michael the Count Vizbing and Anthony

Lionheart Smith.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Believe You Me podcast and I am very honored and

privileged to be joined by the one and only

President awesome the founder of karate combat what's up my brother nice to finally talk to you

no it's a pleasure man. I've been waiting for this for a long time so face to face over the phone with you is an honor.

First of all, karate combat, I absolutely love this. I I do I haven't seen a full event but I've seen all the clips online and I love what you've created talk to me about how karate combat came to be in the first place

So actually what's interesting, a lot of people don't know this.

Grati combat has been around for about five years now.

So they were throwing events constantly,

and over the course of five years years they got a lot of traction from

the traditional karate fans they never broke through into the combat sports fan so

that was the reason for them bringing me on since I have a very large background in many years in this sport.

They want to break through to MMA fans, combat sports fans, and get mainstream.

So I've only been in charge of the last two events now, so I've only been in charge last three months and you can see the big difference now the social clips you can

see the big difference now now the social clips you can't miss it it's all

over social media all the other main superstars are showing up to our shows.

We got Dean Thomas working with us,

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