From Relay, this is Upgrade.

Episode 546.

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It is January 13th, 2025.

My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snow. Hi, Jason.

Mike Hurley, it's amazing that this is episode 546 and just to let people in on a little behind the scenes secret. The documents at 545 and Mike said 546 and I got really freaked out and had to go to relay.fm slash upgrade to make sure that it was indeed. But we already did 545. That one's in the can. This is 546 baby. Well, I would take it further behind the scenes and say if you thought my energy was strange during the intro there is because I was clicking around tabs to make sure it was episode 546, 51045. So, you know, that's that works around here.

I hope you're feeling better. You sound better. Yeah. Yeah, I feel much better. I feel much,

much, much better this week. But we haven't got time for that. If people, I got one, I've just

got one, a little follow out here, which is if people would like to enjoy a podcast in which two thirds of the hosts are sick.

And therefore, the non-sick host has to take over an unaccustomed role as the lead host.

I recommend last week's episode of Connected.

Also, if you like reading rules, reading rules, there's a lot of those.

Reading rules and not fully understanding them. I think that's last week's episode are connected. Well, a ringing

endorsement. I mean, who wouldn't want to listen to a podcast episode by two-thirds of people

were sick and the other person was taking on a job that you hadn't taken on before?

I appear on that, on that episode, from a phone call from my Apple Watch while walking the dog

you do

that was very helpful

yeah

that was one of those

things which I see

this in other podcasts

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