Hi, this is Connor Hall, the producer for wrongful conviction, and we're taking a break from our

usual release schedule to discuss Maggie Freeling's new documentary series called Graves County.

It's out now as season three of Bone Valley in the Bone Valley feed. We'll link it in the episode description.

So we got Jason and Maggie to discuss some of the things that Maggie discovered over the past few years while investigating a case that you may have heard about here a few years ago.

This is the murder of Jessica Curran and the wrongful conviction of Quincy Cross among several others.

And the story takes us to Mayfield, Kentucky, aka Graves County.

The new season of Bone Valley, which I'm just going to say it out loud,

is as powerful as the first one.

People said it couldn't be done, but this story is every bit as crazy.

And the podcast itself is, I think, as brilliant of a masterpiece of storytelling as the first one was.

Thank you, Jason.

It was obviously an honor to be on the Bone Valley Feed with Gilbert, who I admire so much. Bone Valley One was, I remember saying to you, I was like, or I think I said to Gilbert, you know, I wish I made that. I was so mad he made it. I was so jealous he made it. I was like, that's the best podcast I ever heard. I wish I made that. So I think I might have made something equally as good.

You did. You did. And somebody was saying to me this morning, I could just listen to her all day.

I mean, your voice is made for this format. And furthermore, you know, the fact that you wrote it and

produced it is, you know, kudos to you. And hopefully there's another Pulitzer coming your way. I'll never forget. I'll never forget when you call me, by the way. This is off topic. But for people, Maggie, of course, knows the story because she's the one who called me. But we were in Nashville where Maggie was going to present me with an award.

I think it was the, which one was it?

It was the impact.

It was a Cleo Award.

Yeah, it was like it was a music award or something.

Yeah.

So Maggie was kind of fly down and offered to present me with this award.

And the day of the awards ceremony, which was to be that night, I get a call from Maggie in the afternoon. And she says, I just found out I want a pool that sir. I was like, huh? I go, how'd you get the news? She goes, well, I was sitting in the hot tub in my hotel drinking whiskey. When I got the call and I was like, okay, that's perfect. And I'm going to remember this moment forever. It also was very, it was good because it was just, it was just absolutely appropriately humbling because of the idea that I was going to go get this Cleo. So anyway, it's perfect. And speaking of awards, there's some breaking news about Keith Lamar, which is a case that lives rent free in my head. And I'm sure for anyone who's listened to the wrongful conviction episode on Keith Lamar's case, it probably feel the same way. Keith Lamar is in process of being

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