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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

543. “You’re Not Gaining Weight Because You’re Lazy” | Dr. Mehmet Oz

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down for a candid discussion with Dr. Mehmet Oz, discussing the toxified food environment within the United States—pointing directly to its causes—and exploring not just possible, but immediate routes for change. These include better governmental oversight, but also the implementation of new technologies such as AI. Dr. Mehmet Oz, newly appointed by President Donald Trump as the 17th Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), is a cardiothoracic surgeon, professor emeritus at Columbia University, and former leader of the heart institute at New York Presbyterian Medical Center, known for innovations like the Mitraclip and over 400 publications in heart surgery, health policy, and complementary medicine. He gained national fame through The Dr. Oz Show, winning nine Daytime Emmys and authoring several New York Times bestsellers, before becoming the 2022 Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania. A Harvard and UPenn MD/MBA graduate, Oz also co-founded the influential health platform Sharecare and the nationwide teen wellness initiative Healthcorps. His public influence has been recognized by Time, Forbes, and Esquire, making him a high-profile figure at the intersection of medicine, media, and policy. This episode was filmed on November 13th, 2024 | Links | For Dr. Mehmet Oz: On X https://x.com/droz?lang=en On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dr_oz/?hl=en Dr. Mehmet Oz shares his vision for CMS https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/dr-mehmet-oz-shares-vision-cms

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0:00.0

If you gave America the knowledge that they could use to improve themselves, to feel confident

0:05.0

that they had jurisdiction over their own body, to actually play an active role in ensuring

0:09.6

that they don't develop those chronic illnesses, that they'll do it.

0:12.7

If people don't think they matter, then they don't show up in their own lives.

0:16.0

There's no uniting narrative.

0:17.6

There's no union.

0:18.9

It's a completely pathological claim because we live in a hierarchy

0:22.6

of narratives that stretch in principle up to the ultimate pinnacle. There's that. Then there's the fact, too,

0:29.3

that now we're all connected. So things can spread much faster. It's certainly possible that

0:35.6

oversimplified, easily understandable pathological ideas like viruses spread the most rapidly.

0:42.3

It's so painful for me to see so many of my brethren, other Americans feeling ill, thinking it's their fault and thinking there's no way out.

0:51.3

The nihilism around health is stunning, which is George White.

0:55.1

The messaging that you're delivering is so critical. Hello, everybody.

1:18.0

I had the opportunity to sit down with Dr.

1:21.1

Mehmet Oz.

1:23.1

Dr. Oz was an early advocate for me,

1:27.0

a fair early advocate for me back as early as 2018,

1:31.1

which made him unique in that regard on the legacy media side.

1:35.9

And since then, we've had a number of public discussions and a much broader, a much larger number

1:42.5

of private discussions.

1:44.1

And that's being very good as far as I'm

1:45.9

concerned. He's a very remarkable person, full of ideas, exceptional level of energy, and doing his

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