MacPower users episode 543, a developer's summer with underscore David Smith. Hello everyone this is David Sparks joined by my fellow co-host Mr Stephen Hackett.

Hi Stephen.

Hey David, how are you?

Good, I feel like this week is kind of putting the capper on our W.W. D.C. coverage, you know, it finished up last week.

We were able to talk about it quite a bit during the, you know,. W. C and then we talked about our

betas last week this week we thought we'd bring in somebody who has a unique

and interesting perspective on it. Welcome back to the show David Smith.

Thank you.

It's a pleasure to be here.

I mean, I was a, it's an honor to be on MacPower users.

So I'm glad to be able to kind of come and get us, lend a developer perspective

to all the announcements that we just had.

I, you know, I was thinking that you would be the perfect guest for it by like,

we just had them on and then I looked at it was 2017.

So I don't know what happened there in my head,

but you know, David, you were telling us before the

show started how many W. WDCs have you participated in now? So I believe this is

number 12 for me and my first one is in 2009 and I've been essentially attended in some form ever

ever since so it's been like this regular fixture in my family that as far as

my like in which as longer than my children have, are old.

So like from their perspective, daddy always disappears for a week in June.

Like that's just a part of a part of life that I'm sure they expect happens to every

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