I see this growing problem in America of more and more people being pushed into liberal arts studies and more and more engineers and architects coming out, which is great.

But you can have all the engineers and architects in the world design a bridge, but at the end of the day,

somebody's got to build it.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, a regular discussion with building industry

professionals.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb.

Today I'm joined by Zach Strauss, a homebuilding apprentice in Wellington, New Zealand.

You can find the Fine Homebuilding Pro Talk podcast and the original Fine Homebuilding podcast

at finehomebuilding.com slash podcast.

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Zach, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.

Thanks so much for being here.

Hey, thanks for having me on, Patrick.

This is a real treat.

You wrote into the FHB's editorial mailbox describing what you're doing in New Zealand.

Can you talk about that, please?

Yeah. So I'm a regular reader and part-time listener, depending on what job it is that day.

But basically, I thought,

you know, there's a lot of similar perspectives that I read about. And I just thought, oh, I kind of have a slightly unique take on what it is to be abroad and learning the trade. So I thought I'd

write in and offer my two cents. And what are you learning to do? You mentioned in your email

that builders in New Zealand could be described as generalists. They do a lot of different

stuff. Can you talk about the

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