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Cyber war isn't targeted. Cyber war can take all of us down at a few clicks,

but we're not acting like that. A lot of nations are engaged in developing these offensive

capabilities, but they don't understand that the collateral damage is usually their own citizens

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Now today, when I was a kid, I used to love finding bugs in software. I would be on a bulletin board

system and I'd figure out that some little ASCII color coding thing could crash the entire software.

And I'd report the bug to the sysop, the system operator. And I remember one time I did it in the

sysop called the police. And the police called my parents and they didn't really know it was

going on, but my parents thought I was going to get in trouble. And you know, that just made

me have even dead against this guy. Is it weird that I'm still mad about it? But law enforcement

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