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Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night all day. All righty Mike Baker. First of all, sir, thank you very much for joining us.

No, thank you. Thank you. Love the podcast. And by the way, the code word, Rogan may not be that secure as a code word, but it's a good one.

It's a terrible code word as far as security.

No, if it was your Wi-Fi password, I would say you're in deep trouble.

You've got to change that thing.

Well, coming from you, you know about some shit.

You're a former, well, explain what you did.

You were the former covert operations officer for the CIA?

Yeah, I went in, I was recruited in the agency.

And the CIA is divided into a handful of directorates.

You've got the directorate of which is pretty much what it sounds like. You've got the director of intelligence which is where they put all the

smart people and they do all the reports writing they take all the raw

intelligence is coming in from the

field and they put into some usable form that can then be kicked out the door to the

National Security Council, the White House.

It's used by the other agencies in the Intel community and

primarily by the White House. So a lot of smart people sitting over there.

Then they've got S&T, which is science and technology. That's where you get all

the gear. So that's where they develop all I mean they've developed

in the agency over the years everything from the you two to you know stealth

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