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🗓️ 13 July 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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0:00.0 | I'm Welcome to Crawl Space. |
0:30.2 | I'm Tim here today with Lance. |
0:32.0 | Lance, how are you today? |
0:33.6 | I'm doing so well today, Tim, doing fantastic as a matter of fact. |
0:37.2 | I hope the listeners are doing fantastic as well. And I'm really so well today, Tim, doing fantastic as a matter of fact. I hope the listeners are doing fantastic as well. |
0:39.5 | And I'm really, really excited to present this conversation to the listeners because it's a new friend of the show and somebody who really challenges the belief system that we've had for many, many years. |
0:52.2 | And I'm sure the listeners and fans of true crime, aficionados of true crime have had for many, many years. And I'm sure the listeners and fans of true crime, |
0:55.5 | aficionados of true crime have had for many years. |
0:58.7 | He challenges these beliefs. |
1:00.3 | But Tim, right now I'm challenged because I can't get through this conversation |
1:04.6 | without knowing how you are. |
1:06.2 | How are you? |
1:06.9 | Doing great over here. |
1:08.1 | Thanks a lot for asking. |
1:09.8 | And yeah, in this conversation, we interview Phil Chalmers, who is a serial killer profiler and a 40-year veteran of interviewing serial killers, Lance. So this is pretty interesting stuff. So he has a podcast called Where the Bodies Are Buried, in which he conducts interviews with serial killers from prison. |
1:31.9 | They're in prison. |
1:33.0 | He's out, and he gives you his thoughts on the conversation and really tries to find any victims who haven't been officially found. |
1:43.2 | He's basically trying to turn missing people into |
1:45.7 | murder victims, essentially. But, you know, in a large way, that actually helps the families |
1:52.8 | of missing people, as we know, because we do the missing podcast, Lance. But he has also |
1:59.2 | written a book, and it's a new book. It is called Speaking Truth to |
2:04.4 | Evil. And really interesting book. I listened to the audio book. He goes into a lot of serial |
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