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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

54. Eric Farber — The Case for Culture

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0540 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

"We were told when we were young that we're going to work for five different places. There's no real reason for that. I've come to realize more and more that people are doing that because most companies suck to work for. They just suck." - Eric Farber Why do you need to take a leap of faith and invest in your company culture? How can you make your team happy and un-poachable? Why should you make progression and development a priority for all your employees? How can you encourage others to be comfortable with being vulnerable and asking for help? Cultivator of Company Culture When a lawyer decides to hang out their shingle and start their own firm, they usually dream of using their practice as a means to do the kind of work they want to do, when they want to do it. But the reality is that as soon as they open their practice, they need to don their management hat and quickly learn how to become business people as well as attorneys. Eric Farber is an attorney, a CEO, and the author of the highly-rated “The Case For Culture,” a book all about transforming your law firm, taking control of yourself and your business, and establishing a clear company culture. Eric knows all too well the pitfalls attorneys fall into in their own practices, and in this episode, we'll discuss how law firm owners can avoid these mistakes and motivate their team members to stick around. Not Hiring is Better Than Hiring Wrong When you're growing fast or find that certain departments are overwhelmed, any manager's gut reaction is to start hiring. While bringing in the right people can help to handle the extra workload, hiring someone unfit for the task can end up costing your firm dearly. Eric explains how poor hiring choices make for unhappy and unproductive employees, and he tells us why it's better to leave a position empty rather than fill a seat with someone who doesn't fit your culture. Eric also reveals the only two follow-up questions you'll need in an interview and offers a word of warning about candidates who seem to tick all the right boxes. Give Until It Hurts When starting your own firm, you have to make sacrifices. That might mean giving up personal time to work on your business, or it might mean taking a smaller salary to make sure your team gets paid. But if you want to promote a healthy culture to support your business, you might have to go yet another step further. We discuss why you and your culture need to be able to recognize that nobody is a superhero and that from time to time some might need a little extra help. Eric also details the extraordinary lengths he went to in order to support one of his own employees, and he shares the unexpected positive impact it had on his business. Key takeaways: Have faith when investing in culture. Some benefits will be immediate, and some won't be obvious until the future. The company culture might not be what you think it is, so ask your key stakeholders to find out what it is to them. Keep your employees challenged and satisfied if you don't want to lose them. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Video Website Crisp Video Facebook Crisp Video Group Twitter Crisp Video Instagram Crisp Video LinkedIn Eric Farber LinkedIn Eric Farber Website The Case for Culture Website

Transcript

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Stop taking examples from other law firms.

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We have terrible customer service.

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We have terrible team engagement.

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We have terrible business acumen.

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Start going and looking at the companies you want to emulate.

0:15.0

That's Eric Farber, founder and CEO of Pacific Workers and the best-selling author of The Case for Culture.

0:26.7

Take your examples from hospitality. Take your examples from tech. Take your examples from the best businesses in existence. Put those into your law firm and see how it changes.

0:35.2

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp Video, the nation's number one law firm growth company.

0:40.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:43.4

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:48.6

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:52.9

Our approach has been to take everything

0:54.6

we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the

0:58.2

country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this

1:02.8

podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from

1:07.7

those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

1:13.6

I sat down with Eric Farber to discuss how leaders can improve their firm's culture, why you should manage processes, not people, and how to earn unwavering loyalty and commitment from your team.

1:22.6

But if you can actually meet the human needs of acceptance, of growth, of mastery, of accountability,

1:31.5

of the things that matter to humans, why can't they stick around for an incredibly long time?

1:38.0

Creating the unpoachable person is about creating fans just like your clients.

1:44.8

That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney Podcast.

1:53.4

Eric Farber is the founder and CEO of Pacific Workers, the Lawyers for Injured Workers.

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