Have you noticed that I don't have politicians as guests on this show?

Well today, I make a rare exception.

Andrew Yang was a complete unknown, a political novice when he burst onto the scene of the 2016

Democratic Primary Campaign.

He didn't win, obviously, but he brought an attitude and a platform that many people

found energizing.

He then lost a tough race to be the mayor of New York City, and some people might have

given up on politics after that, but not Andrew Yang.

Now he's back, launching a brand new party to try to shake up the status quo.

What the Ford Party's about was my reckoning, Steve, with the fact that our system right

now is set up to fail us and it will fail us because of incentives.

Welcome to people I mostly admire, with Steve Levitt.

The main reason I rarely have politicians on the show is that they just won't talk freely

and honestly.

Partly, that's because their job requires them to constantly be pandering to voters.

But also, they spend so much time giving stump speeches.

The message is so rehearsed that it's almost impossible to get them off their script.

I feel the same will happen with Andrew, but my hope is that he's just different enough,

just weird enough, that we can have a real conversation.

Now my best chance to make that happen is to ask him questions that he rarely hears.

So Andrew, let me start with a confession.

Ever since I was a kid, I've fantasized about what it would be like to be president of

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