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Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries

538 // Fiction in True Crime w/ Megan Abbott

Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries

Crawlspace Media

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, the great writer, Megan Abbott. Megan is prolific in her field with her primary focus on true crime stories. Although her books are fiction, the plot-lines are well-researched and based on actual cases. Her newest book, El Dorado Drive is a riveting read and draws significantly from the 2010 murder of Barbara Hamburg in Madison CT. Check out all of Megan's work: https://www.meganabbott.com/ Get your copy of El Dorado Drive: https://www.meganabbott.com/order-el-dorado-drive Follow Megan: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/29593.Megan_Abbott https://www.instagram.com/melizaabbott/ https://twitter.com/meganeabbott *This episode is brought to you by Mood, the online cannabis company that's revolutionizing how we deal with life's challenges – from sleepless nights to stress-filled days. You can get 20% off your first order at https://mood.com/ with promo code Crawlspace.* We are going to CrimeCon in Denver CO. Sept. 5th - 7th! For 10% off your standard pass, use code "crawlspace" at checkout. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.crimecon.com/CC25⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing Please donate if you can: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://investigationsforthemissing.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://piftm.org/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm You know,

0:00.6

Oh,

0:01.0

and Welcome to crawl space. I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

0:32.4

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. Really trying to handle this heat wave that we have going on here. Not unwelcome.

0:40.8

I'll say that we had, you know, these winters and we complain about them and, you know, we have

0:45.2

bad weather, but I'm not complaining about the heat. I'm just saying a little steamy right now,

0:50.1

but I hope everybody out there is doing well. And Tim, how are you today? Doing great over here.

0:55.0

Thanks a lot for asking.

0:56.6

Very excited to introduce this conversation with big time author, Megan Abbott.

1:02.1

And she has written a bunch of books.

1:04.3

And she's got a new book that just came out in June of 2025.

1:08.4

It's called El Dorado Drive, Lance.

1:11.2

And it is a fictional story, but it's based on some real-life crimes.

1:17.4

And the 2010 murder of 48-year-old Barbara Beach, Hamburg from Madison, Connecticut,

1:25.3

is part of the real-life crimes that we speak about in this conversation.

1:30.4

And it was interesting when we were contacted about having Megan on the show, initially we were

1:36.8

a little apprehensive because this is a fictional account and we try to keep everything true crime,

1:42.9

true fact here, and make sure that there's

1:46.8

a topic that the listeners can relate to.

1:49.9

So we never want to cross that line and get into the fiction territory and not bring

1:54.3

ourselves back out of it.

1:55.3

But it was great because they insisted, no, you need to have her on because she does

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