#537 Jason Flom with Johnny Berry

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On August 10th, 1994, a man and a woman were in a van in West Philadelphia, when two males approached. One blocked the passenger door, while the other shot the man before he could get out of the van. The witness identified 16 year old Johnny Berry from a photo, but rescinded the ID at a preliminary hearing. Inexplicably, Johnny was re-arrested and sent back to juvenile detention, where he met Tauheed Lloyd who had admitted to being one of the assailants. When Lloyd refused to clear Johnny's name, they fought. Months later, Lloyd was arrested in an unrelated incident, and his gun matched the murder weapon. Unaware of this evidence, Lloyd thought Johnny had snitched. In turn, he gave false testimony for leniency and out of spite, sending Johnny away for life without parole. Years later, Lloyd's attempted recantation was silenced by threats of perjury and another murder prosecution. It took a slew of Supreme Court rulings on juvenile life sentences and the Philadelphia CIU to right this wrong.

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0:00.0	And here's Heather with the weather.
0:01.7	Well, it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade.
0:07.1	Now, let's get a read on the inside of your car.
0:10.6	It is hot.
0:11.9	You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there.
0:16.4	Let's not leave children in the back seat while running errands.
0:19.2	It only takes a few minutes for their
0:21.1	body temperatures to rise, and that could be fatal. Cars get hot, fast, and can be deadly. Never leave
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1:34.2	On August 10, 1994 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 78-year-old Leonard Jones and 27-year-old
1:40.9	Michelle Brooks sat in a parked car when one male blocked the passenger door and another
1:45.8	demanded that Jones get out before shooting and killing him. The two males fled. Michelle Brooks
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