Yes, yes, yes, yes, it is a Monday morning. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the Let's There. Let's There's Be some talks. Let's There Be's.

Monday.

June 29th, 2020.

Thank you so much for joining me here on another episode and a very, very special episode.

I realize something as I get older that how much friendship really kind of means to a human soul.

It's it's funny when you have an old friend that you haven't seen in years.

The floodgate of emotions when you see this person or talk to this person on the phone or or anything it's it's wild.

It really makes me feel alive.

And I it you never know why you kind of lose track of old friends but during the COVID I realize we have nothing but time and we should reach out and find these people that at one time in your life meant something to you and give them a ring.

And that's what I decided to do a couple days ago when I reached out to an old friend of mine Jimmy Arsenal.

I've talked about it many times over the nine years of this podcast that when I was very young I used to book a rock club in San Francisco and a matter of fact I was involved in booking four clubs.

The stone, the omnie, the one step beyond and the Cadillac club all in California.

My partner and good friend Jimmy Arsenal sat across from me in Oakland, California and for four years we had one of the most stressful gigs.

And I think it was a early 20 something year old could have lots lots of stress involved in it was like gambling can a book this band they're going to get this amount of money.

And I always shit that gig tanked and then the owners are right there at you like what happened with that show.

But there was many, many nights where we hit gold and it was all because we loved music and we had our as corny as this sounds finger on the pulse.

We loved what we did. There was a double edged sword because here you are this artist playing music Jimmy and I both had bands but then we were on the other side of the fence and that was an interesting responsibility and dilemma to have.

Are you an artist or you in the business.

And you got to figure out which one you are thank god Jimmy and I were both because as we got older and you deal with business in the art world you're not what I call a rock dummy.

One of those people that are like yeah I don't know man it looks good to me just get me a tour bus and I'm fucking rock and roll.

Those people are what I call the tumbleweeds blown around going what happened.

Somebody one time said to me they said if you question stuff about the business you're going to be labeled difficult to work with.

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