September is that key bottleneck. You've got to get through that period. Now you're going to see

competing tokenized money market funds going head to head with, let's say, Tether. What you're

really just doing is amplifying the existing bubble. It doesn't have to look like 2008 or 2020 either.

It's just we've been trained to brace ourselves for those type of things. You're not going to hear any

candidate make these points on the ballot in November, even if Donald Trump was up at the conference. I think this IPO

at fold, it's going to be a huge proof point for CIOs out there. Bitcoin focus funds have not

return any capital to investors. And so the fact that we're getting these first companies out

the door, that's a big thing.

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I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

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Probably should be.

Oh, it's just going. We're going, Matt. Live rip.

Welcome back to the show.

Thanks, Marty. Pleasure to be back with you.

It's been about 16 months since we caught up on this show.

As you were saying, deep bear market. Are we still in a bear market?

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