It's time for episode 533 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, December 13th, 2023.

Clockwise.

It's only 12 shopping days from Christmas.

My name is Dan Moran, and I am joined across the Internet this week by a very special co-host.

It is co-host emeritus and co-creator of

Clockwise, the one and only Jason Snell sitting in from Micah Sargent. Welcome back, Jason.

I am your ghost of Clockwise Past. It is always great to sit in for one of you guys when you're,

like I'm in case of needing a host to break glass guy.

I don't know why we keep you behind glass, but it's probably for your own safety.

Well, it's, it's a window. I don't want to hear you guys. So it's a double-pained window.

And today we're going to, we're really going to throw back. Throw back like eight years to

episode 110 of Clockwise, which featured this same panel. 2015, people.

Let's cut to the clip.

No, we don't have a clip.

But we do have two fantastic guests to my left this week.

It's Slovenia's foremost tech journalist and podcaster.

Anjay Tomic, welcome back, Andre.

Yes, eight years, the same crew, it's going to be even better.

Then I'm so hyped. You see, I'm doing the, you know, it's always a better version, basically.

That's right.

Yes.

And to my left, it is Relay FM podcaster, tech engineer and political activist and also

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