Oh, well, hello, and welcome back to the Terry Cole show such a fun interview for you today.

This is one of my friends, her name is Sabrina Subto.

She is a frequent fire on the Terry Cole show.

I love her so much.

She is an incredibly engaging and vivacious personality.

It was super drawn to her after being on her podcast.

She really just, she's so inviting.

She's so warm.

She's been featured on today live with Kellyanne Ryan, Good Morning America, Regie Ray, she's

I don't know.

So she is a host, various HGTV shows.

She has one on right now.

She was on the high low project design, star real estate intervention, and get it sold.

Those are a couple of the ones she's been on.

She's been guest appearances everywhere, but she's really a design expert.

And that's, you know, that's what, how I met her on her show, which talks about design.

But she also talks about life and she talks about her life.

Her show right now is on CBS Primetime, it's secret celebrity renovation, and it's so much

fun.

It's like a total feel good show.

And I wanted Sabrina to come back on and talk a little bit about the power of decluttering

and then we talked about everything personal as well, because really we're friends.

...