Hello and welcome to PFF Fancy football podcast. We're talking all things rookies today. My name is Ian Hardis. Joining me as always the one the only Dwayne the rock Mac Farlin. Dwayne 10 AM early record time for us. Still very much a great day to be great.

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Today, impromptu stream football guys shape a ship draft with my buddy John Dagle last night started at 11.55 PM. You know what I'm here. I'm awake. I'm ready to go because we have a great guest joining us here today host of wake up TV destination.

Happy radio part of the draft network demand also has the all gas newsletter returning guest the one the only Ray Garvin Rage EQ on YouTube and Twitter. I guess I said both of you guys the one the only but I think you are. I love both of you guys. Right. Great to have you back. Thanks for joining us.

Appreciate you having me on man.

Last time Ray was here I was recording out of a hotel room in Nashville and the fire alarms are going off halfway through the pot. I'm knocking on wood right now but cautiously optimistic that we can enjoy a little more success there. So if anyone has been following Ray on Twitter YouTube however the hell you consume your content.

You know this is one of the more knowledgeable guys in the industry about all things with the rookie class coming in so hard not to talk about these guys and have some dinesy and put but generally going to be focusing on 2022 redraft principles today.

Right as we know in 2022 you know the whole season we're talking about these quarterbacks for a day it was like muleek willis I remember we were talking about him going at number two overall to the lions oh my gosh we get to the end of the draft only county pick it goes round one but according to training camp he's the QB3 right there.

Very good chance that not a single rookie quarterback is under center by week one hell maybe even week eight with that said I want to briefly talk about muleek willis because we've seen guys like to some hill rookie year Lamar Jackson i'm not here slander Lamar please don't put that on me but rookie year Lamar.

Taste them hell rookie year jail in hurts these quarterbacks let's face it weren't going to throw in the ball but they still provided us a plus fancy value from the beginning thanks that sweet sweet rushing upside right do you think willis special enough as a rusher to immediately hop into that top 12 top 15 quarterback conversation should Ryan tanhill miss some time.

I think he is specially enough as a runner but he's still not good enough as a passer to get there I don't think there's a shot in hell and just be it being realistic he had a long way to go before he was drafted in the third round in the NFL draft he was already sort of a project type quarterback you know at ryan tanhill is is is comfortable he's comfortable in that spot and if by some crazy chance muleek wills got a shot to play.

I just I don't know how that how well that would work out and I think you would truly just be banking on him.

Be completing a couple of passes and just running like crazy and with their canry in that backfield i just don't think it would be enough for muleek willis to push for top 12 i don't think he's got a shot in hell this season to do it even if he even if he somehow wound up under center he's just so far behind from a from a quarterback standpoint still got to be able to complete the damn ball man and I just don't think muleek will be a lot of time to get there.

I just don't think muleek will is there yet as much as I like the talent of the player.

So even worse than tibo huh.

I think what tibo gave us like some top 10 finishes a few times where we're like wow like it really does all if you just run I guess that's all the matter.

Here's the thing though the way and I mean my thing is at least tibo it for as bad as he was he did it in the SEC you're talking about muleek who I get the the athleticism and I think it's he's a work in progress.

And he would have to do a little something from the quarterback position with his arm and I just don't think he's there yet I just do not think he's there yet.

So probably yeah probably even a little worse than tibo this season this season.

We did see and enjoying like again when I wrote this question now I just kept coming back to our tastes and held conversations and the middle towards the end of last season where you basically echoed everything race saying where it's like look 10 rush attempts for a quarter back it's great.

I think we can all agree on that but my god you got to be able to complete a forward pass just you know every now and every now and again in the year 2022.

Yeah so that's the quarterback talk that concludes it.

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