#532 Jason Flom with Clay Chabot

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In recognition of July 4th we want to highlight Clay Chabot, a Navy veteran who served almost 2 years on the USS Saratoga CVA-60 before he was honorably discharged. Veterans, even those who served their country honorably, are not immune to the shortcomings of our criminal justice system.

On April 19, 1986, the body of a 28 year old woman was found in her bedroom in Garland, Texas. She had been tied, gagged, raped and shot three times. Clay Chabot, a friend of the victim's husband, became the main suspect after voluntarily providing information to the police about his brother-in-law, Gerald Pabst, who had visited the victim's home on the morning of the murder. Initially telling police that he had no involvement in the crime, Pabst later changed his story by claiming that Clay had forced him to tie up the victim before she was shot. Despite no physical evidence linking Clay to the crime, he was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison solely on the testimony of Gerald Pabst.

To learn more and get involved, visit:

https://guiltypleaproblem.org/?id=clay_chabot

https://innocenceproject.org/clay-chabot-veterans-day-2018/

https://innocenceproject.org/

https://lavaforgood.com/with-jason-flom/

Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.

We have worked hard to ensure that all facts reported in this show are accurate. The views and opinions expressed by the individuals featured in this show are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Lava for Good.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free.
0:08.0	I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you.
0:17.7	Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network.
0:22.9	Tune in on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
0:29.3	If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, the saying it, this is for the ones who
0:35.1	had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft,
0:39.1	and whole. The Unwanted Sorority is where black women, fims, and gender expansive survivors of
0:43.9	sexual violence rewrite the rules on healing, support, and what happens after. And I'm your host
0:49.4	and co-president of this organization, Dr. Leitra Tate. Listen to the unwanted sorority, new episodes every Thursday
0:55.8	on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I also want to address
1:02.8	the Tonys. On a recent episode of Checking Game with Michelle Williams, I open up about
1:09.2	feeling snubbed by the Tony Awards.
1:11.7	Do I?
1:12.6	I was never mad.
1:14.6	I was disappointed because I had high hopes.
1:17.8	To hear this and more on disappointment and protecting your peace, listen to checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
1:29.2	wherever you get your podcasts. The Innocence Network is a loose affiliation of independent
1:34.5	innocence organizations and each year members of these organizations as well as the hundreds
1:39.3	of exoneries who they've helped free gather for the Innocence Network Conference and
1:44.0	it's a beautiful
1:45.3	thing. For one weekend, the exonerese can all count on the fact that there are other
1:50.8	people around who share their experience, and our team was honored to join them for their
	...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 14 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lava for Good Podcasts, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Lava for Good Podcasts and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.