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The Rest Is Politics

531. Starmer on the Brink: What Next?

The Rest Is Politics

Goalhanger

News, Politics, Government

4.511.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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As Starmer’s cabinet begin turning against him, how long can he cling on to power? By challenging Starmer without a clear plan for what comes next, are Labour MPs unleashing a chaos they cannot control? As Wales and Scotland shift dramatically towards Plaid Cymru, the Scottish National Party, and Reform UK – are we witnessing the end of both Labour and the Conservatives as national parties? Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more. __________ Go deeper into the world of The Rest Is Politics by signing up for our free newsletter HERE, featuring exclusive interviews, analysis and weekend reads from Alastair and Rory. Join The Rest Is Politics Plus. Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, exclusive newsletters, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. Stop overpaying for energy. Switch at fuseenergy.com/politics and get a free TRIP+ subscription. Lloyds. 250 years on and still backing the nation's aspirations. Get more from your business accounts. Search Lloyds Business Accounts.Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restispolitics It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ __________ Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: therestispolitics@goalhanger.com __________ Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Vasco Andrade Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Producer: Evan Green Exec Producer: Chris Sawyer General Manager: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:27.3

Welcome to The Rest is Politics with me, Alastair Campbell.

1:31.1

And with me, Rory Stewart.

1:32.7

So this is a traditional emergency podcast driven by the fact that politics in general is getting more and more unstable.

1:40.2

So people are hearing more and more of these.

1:42.3

And the story today is Kirstama's leadership now seems to be under probably its most serious challenge that we seem to date.

1:51.0

Looks as though something like ATMPs now privately or in public have come out asking for him to suggest when he's going to step down.

2:00.0

There's a cabinet meeting happening

2:02.2

as we speak. And of course, to remind people, the immediate trigger for this was the local elections,

2:08.0

which was on some measurements, I think the worst Labour showing ever in local elections, lost

2:14.0

well over 1,200 seats, particularly catastrophic in places like Wales where Labour went off the edge of a cliff.

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