From Relay this is Upgrade episode 530. Today's show is brought to you by Square Space, Vitally, and Ladders.

My name is Mike Hurley and I have the pleasure of being joined in person by Jason.

Hi Jason. Hi, Mike, high five. Yeah in person, that's right. That's us.

We're in the pod cabin. We're in the pod cabin. We are in the pod cabin.

Stephen Hackett has been removed by Stephen yeah and we take on all of his stuff and we're using it to record our podcast it's true but I have a snow talk question for you it comes from Benjamin who wants to know. I've recently found myself

suddenly sluggish in the morning instead of energized and I wonder if tea may help me.

What advice do you have for getting into tea? Well, there's a lot, but what I would say is you don't have to be, there's a deep

hole you can go down, you don't have to go down that deep hole, you can start it simple.

I like it with breakfast tea tea which has a lot of caffeine

and I think there's a green tea that has caffeine in it too. Here's the challenge

though it's like the like Homer Simpson said about alcohol it's the cause of

and solution to all of life's problems.

Caffeine is like that too.

So the danger is if you have caffeine, too much caffeine,

especially late in the day, you may find yourself sluggish in the morning

instead of energized because you will have slept poorly.

So keep that in mind.

But I'd say I started drinking tea more regularly because I talked to a friend who actually

said, oh yeah, I get up at six in the morning and I go for a bike ride or a run and I said how do you do that and he said basically caffeine so

It helps it does so what I would say is to get into tea. The simplest thing maybe is go to your local

supermarket and first of off don't, if you're an American, don't buy Lipton don't do it but there are lots of

brands that will have an English breakfast tea twinings is a good one there

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