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Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

53. Sean Wilentz (Historian) – The Culture Strikes Back

Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

Big Think / Panoply

Arts, Society & Culture

4.6594 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2016

⏱️ 36 minutes

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The stakes are extraordinarily high in this election. We’re at a crossroads. I think the current politics are a continuation of the fight we’ve been having since the ‘60s.The expansion of an African-American middle class, the changes in family norms, in gender and sexual norms . . .Lots of people felt threatened by that. Lots of people resisted that.  But the war is only going to be settled now.  – Sean Wilentz Sean Wilentz is a Princeton professor and the Bancroft-Prize-Winning Author of The Rise of American Democracy. He’s also a major music historian and the author of Bob Dylan in America, and the official historian of Bob Dylan’s website. His new book The Politicians and the Egalitarians: The Hidden History of American Politics argues that there are two keys to understanding American politics––the theme of party politics and outsider resistance to it, and the theme of economic and social egalitarianism. He argues that all positive change in American political history has happened within the system of party politics.  On this week's episode of Think Again - a Big Think Podcast, Wilentz and host Jason Gots discuss identity politics, human life on Mars, and the culture war that began when the counterculture "won" the battle in the late '60s, and which Wilentz argues is reaching a final cataclysm with the election of 2016.  Surprise discussion clips in this episode: Comedian Lewis Black on political correctness, Bill Nye on colonizing Mars.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

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Not much to it, is there?

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Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

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Mmm, that is good.

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Now that's what Asani should sound like.

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Go all crisp in with walkers.

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Delicious.

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Hey there, I'm Jason Gatz and you you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

0:29.6

Since 2008, Big Think has been sharing big ideas from creative and curious minds in every field.

0:36.6

The Think Again podcast takes us out of our comfort zone, surprising our guests and me, your

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host, with unexpected conversation starters from Big Things interview archives, ideas we

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didn't necessarily come here prepared to discuss.

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Today I'm very, very happy to be speaking with historian Sean Willence.

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He's a Princeton professor and the

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Bancroft Prize winning author of the Rise of American Democracy. He's also a major music historian

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and the author of Bob Dylan in America and the official historian of Bob Dylan's website.

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His new book, The Politicians and the Egalitarians, argues that there are two keys to understanding American

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politics, and we'll talk more about those in a second.

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Welcome to think again, Jason, great to be here.

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So glad to have you.

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And well, let me just, yeah, let me quickly summarize the two big themes of the book.

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That basically throughout American history, we have had these struggles over politics and the idea of politics as usual and the two-party system.

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