Welcome to another edition of tangentially speaking. I know I start every damn one of these

things by saying this is a really special edition but trust me this one's a really special

edition. I'm bringing it to you hot from the oven. This is an interview I did just yesterday.

I'm recording this intro and I'm going to put it up as soon as possible this afternoon.

This is a guy named Bruce Lysker who I first heard about a while ago from my aunt

who's living room I'm sitting in right now. My aunt is a wonderful person. She has always been

someone I've felt very close to. I mean not this really doesn't have much to do with the podcast

but it'll give you a sense of how things happen in life and I'm sure they happen this way in

your life too. The serendipity of things. My aunt was always, she's the youngest of my mother's

siblings. My mother's the oldest and so there's an age difference between my parents and my aunt

and her husband when I was growing up we'd go visit them and my parents were close with them and

so it wasn't that big of an age difference. They enjoyed each other's company but whereas my

parents would be listening to you know Frank Sinatra or Herb Albert in the Tijuana brass or something

like that. My aunt was listening to Crosby Stills Nash and Young and The Beatles and

it was just her place was always sort of a funky, comfortable bohemian vibe happening and I

resonated with that from a very young age and really enjoyed her company and just the feeling I had

being around her and I still do. I'm sitting as I said sitting in her living room right now in

Topanga Canyon California looking out on beautiful forests and national park or her state park

across the canyon from where she lives. Her house is essentially bolted into the side of the canyon

so I can reach out from the sofa I'm sitting on and touch a giant boulder which forms one wall

of the living room. It's a very funky place. Cassie and I were were actually married here by the

great Stanley Krippner who you know if you've listened to the podcast for a while if not you can

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