A lot of people building software today never took the traditional computer science path.

They arrived through curiosity, or a job that needed automating, or a late-night itch that made

something work.

This week, David Kopeck joins me to talk about computer science for exactly these folks,

the ones who learned a program first and are now ready to understand the deeper ideas

that power the tools they use every day.

This is Talk Python to Me, episode 529 recorded October 26th, 2025.

Talk Python of Me, yeah, we ready to roll.

Upgrading the code.

No fear of getting old.

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David, welcome back to TalkBythonomy.

Thank you so much for having me back, Michael. It's really an honor.

Got some really fun stuff to talk about computer science from scratch. What does that even mean? We're going to find out because you wrote the book on it. Yeah, I'm excited. And this book just came out, so it's kind of fresh off the press. And I want to thank you for being the technical reviewer on the book, actually. Yeah, it was really fun. You reached out and asked me and I don't normally do things like that, but I'm like, you know, that'd be kind of fun and it would be a good experience and I do think it was. It taught me some about creating books and I guess that pays off as well. And congratulations, by the way, on Talk Python in production coming out. Yeah, thanks. I started that last December and it came out, I think the beginning of this month,

maybe end of September, something like that, but pretty recently. So yeah, I really appreciate it.

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