527: Ulrich "The Mole" Larsen | Undercover in North Korea Part One
The Jordan Harbinger Show
Jordan Harbinger
4.8 • 12.3K Ratings
🗓️ 28 June 2021
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Ulrich "The Mole" Larsen (@UlrichTheMole) is a family man from Denmark who spent 10 years undercover in North Korea infiltrating its illicit arms trade. [This is part one of a two-part episode. Stay tuned for the second half later this week!]
What We Discuss with Ulrich "The Mole" Larsen:- How did a young Danish chef and family man wind up working undercover in North Korea to disrupt its illicit arms trade?
- Why would the repressive regime that runs North Korea trust a young Danish chef and welcome him with open arms?
- How some low-status Westerners cozy up to the North Korean regime for the chance to boss around other Westerners visiting the country and the illusionary rush of power it gives them.
- The natural qualities and easygoing talents that made Ulrich such an ideal mole in a place where every move is surveilled and analyzed by invisible eyes from every nook and shadow.
- Why operating clandestinely in the DPRK is no job for a teetotaler.
- And much more...
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| 0:02.8 | And then suddenly I saw Mr. Kang with my camera and I was like, oh shit, he's gonna check it out now. |
| 0:10.6 | But he gave us to his colleague and said, you have to film Jim and Ulreg and the people here |
| 0:15.8 | so Ulreg can bring it home to the people of Mr. James so they can see we had a great time in Ulreg and I was like, great. |
| 0:22.2 | Now they really trust me. |
| 0:24.4 | And it took it many times for me filming me and yeah, actually you're filming them self doing crimes. |
| 0:30.8 | Well, it's insane. |
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| 1:23.6 | Today, he spent 10 years undercover infiltrating North Korea's illicit arms trade, |
| 1:28.8 | along with some communist sympathizer groups. |
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