525 | The Outliers
The Minimalists
Joshua Fields Millburn
4.7 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2026
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
The Minimalists speak with Steve Patterson about being frustrated when people don't understand us, the benefits and downsides of being abnormal, minimizing chaos at a cultural level, and more!
Discussed in this episode:
Why do people frustrate me when they don't understand my lifestyle? (4:03)
In what ways are you abnormal? What are the benefits? What are the downsides? (19:19)
Right Here, Right Now: The Minimalists' Simplify Everything decluttering course. (1:04:07)
Listener Tip: How might simplifying be an answer to the chaos? (1:05:29)
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Detailed show notes: minimalists.com/podcast
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Every little thing that you think that you think that you need. |
| 0:23.6 | Every little thing you think that you need. |
| 0:28.6 | Every little thing that's just feeding your greed. |
| 0:33.6 | Oh, I bet that you be fine without it. |
| 0:40.7 | Yes, hello everybody. |
| 0:42.6 | Welcome to the minimalist podcast, |
| 0:46.5 | where we discuss what it means to live a meaningful life with less. |
| 0:48.2 | My name is Joshua Fields Milburn, |
| 0:51.9 | and joining me here at our studio in beautiful West Hollywood, California, |
| 0:53.9 | is my good friend T.K. Coleman. |
| 0:55.1 | It's a beautiful day. |
| 1:00.1 | Now, I have a bone to pick with today's guest, and we'll get to that in a minute, but first I want to tell you a story. |
| 1:02.3 | We're recording this a day after MLK Day, and my daughter was sleeping in yesterday, and |
| 1:09.0 | I just discovered, I finally discovered I'm an old man. It has happened. |
| 1:14.3 | And here's how I figured it out. My daughter's sleeping in and eventually it's like 9.30 and I want to |
| 1:19.1 | take her to the park because there's this like big celebration thing going on. And so I go in there |
| 1:22.8 | to wake her up. And of course, I always wake her up with music and me being me. I put on girl You Know It's True by Millie Vanilly, as you do at 9.30 in the morning. |
| 1:31.9 | And she just looks up like, what are you doing? |
| 1:34.2 | Why aren't you letting me sleep? |
| 1:35.5 | And so to really get into it, I just start doing The Running Man for the entire song. |
| 1:40.8 | And my knee is destroyed now. |
| 1:45.1 | From three minutes of the running man, I can hardly walk right now. |
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