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You know, Paul, I started telling everybody the benefits of eating dried grapes.

I don't know, man.

I don't know.

I'm trying to force a raisin fun in there.

I feel like you could guess of this.

Yeah, we get there eventually.

Paul, it's about raisin awareness.

And that's what we're... So I don't say, yeah, I knew Raised had to be in there. The awareness, that's a nice touch. Paul, you'll notice that's lightly on topic for this evening. Sure, no strong work. Better than... I can't surpine, probably. The Curbsiders podcast is for entertainment, education, and information purposes only, and the topics discussed should not be used solely to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any diseases or conditions. For the more of the views and statements expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and should not be interpreted to reflect official policy or position of any entity. Aside from possibly cash like more hostile and affiliate outreach programs, if indeed there are any. In fact, there are none. Pretty much we aren't responsible if you screw up. You should always do your own homework and let us know when we're worth.

Welcome back to the curbsiders. I'm Dr. Matthew Frank Guaddo, here with my great friend,

pun lover, and America's primary care physician, Dr. Paul Nelson Williams. Hi, Paul.

Hey, Matt. How are you?

I'm doing well. I always like, when you like my pun, it just feels like a better start to the show.

Which is why some of your episodes are bad. All right, Paul, we have a great show tonight, a great co-host as well. First, would you remind people, what do we do on curbsiders? Sure. As a reminder, Matt, we are the internal medicine podcast. We use expert interviews to bring in clinical pearls and practice changing knowledge. As you alluded to, we are joined by the Curbsiders, stalwart, teach creator, and showrunner, producer, writer, extraordinaire, the great Dr. Molly Hoibind. Molly, how are you?

I'm good. Thank you for that beautiful introduction, Paul, and happy to be here. We had a great discussion today about multi-gene early cancer detection testing, kind of the early stage that it's in, the promise that it might be able to offer, but also the real limitations that are currently present at this point. Our guest today is

Dr. Margaret Tempero. She is the deputy director of the UCSF Helen Diller Family Comprehensive Cancer

Center at Mount Zion. She has led national research projects for gastrointestinal cancer,

including pancreatic cancer. She has held editorial positions on prestigious journals such as

cancer research, journal of clinical oncology, clinical cancer research, and the American

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