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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

524 - Get Your Blade Hands Ready

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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True Crime

4.6179.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

This week, Georgia covers the 2012 Costa Concordia disaster and Karen tells the story of one of America’s first female millionaires, beauty magnate Madam C.J. Walker.

 

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:06.8

He was a young Marine. She didn't care about convention. They made a life together. Then one night, the Marine died.

0:15.8

And then the death investigation took a wild, unexpected, and utterly bizarre turn.

0:23.0

I'm Josh Mankiewicz, and this is Trace of Suspicion, an all-new podcast from Dateline.

0:28.9

Search Trace of Suspicion to start listening now.

0:32.1

Music Hello.

0:40.3

Hello and welcome. That's Georgia Hard Start. That's Karen Kilgariff. I can do puppetry. Oh, wait, what's happening? Suddenly we are a third host. It's Karen's hand in a puppet shape. It's my hand that doesn't approve. It does look. He does. He does. Suddenly it's he.. Yeah. His name is Agbert and he looks a little disappointed. And he's a little bit disappointed in us. Yeah. I'm sorry. What does it mean that your own hand puppet is disappointed in you? It's not good. Psychologically. Little Catholic. Little Jewish. Little woman being a woman. Little woman. Yeah.

1:31.4

How's it going? How do you feel right now? Okay, my face is a little numb still. I had some

1:35.9

dental work. What'd you get? Well, I've been going to this adorable, like, family neighborhood

1:42.1

dentist for years. I'm not going to say what it is. And I love

1:45.4

them and I go regularly. I'm really good at getting my teeth clean and I'm a good girl about it.

1:50.0

And then I went to this place a couple months ago, like a month ago, once was a month ago by my house.

1:54.9

It's like just closer and a little nicer. And he's like, you have so many fucking issues that this little mom and pop dental place have no technology and didn't know about.

2:07.5

So you're so fucked.

2:09.2

No.

2:10.0

I get a third opinion, though.

2:12.2

Why would they not?

2:13.3

Because he's showing me photos of my fucking teeth and there's like holes and cracks in them.

2:18.1

Like cracks in my teeth.

2:19.7

And then you go back and check it's actually a florist and you've been going to the completely wrong places.

2:25.0

I've just been on acid every time.

2:27.3

I'm like, that's so weird.

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