Coming up on the Ultimate Health Podcast, from a scientific mathematical standpoint,

it's actually very, very obvious what needs to be done. You need to change the hormones,

not the number of calories.

Hello and welcome to Ultimate Health Podcast Episode 523. I'm Jesse Chapus and I'm here to take

your help to the next level. Each week I'll bring you in-depth conversations with health and

wellness leaders from around the world. Today you're going to get a deep dive with Dr. Jason

Fung. Jason is a physician, researcher, and New York Times specializing author,

and currently practices as an nephrologist, which is a kidney specialist. He's the co-founder of

the fasting method, which provides the education tools and community needed to successfully implement

intermittent fasting. Today you're going to learn all about intermittent fasting,

how to burn body fat, how to reverse type 2 diabetes, cancer prevention, and so much more.

Here we go with Dr. Jason Fung. I want to start our conversation giving people hope.

And this is for people out there that are suffering from obesity, prediabetes, or type 2 diabetes.

So by the end of our conversation, we're going to give people an education of how they can treat

these conditions naturally. Yeah, I think that the most important thing to understand is that

these are reversible conditions. So for many, many years, in fact, all the diabetes associations

had said explicitly that type 2 diabetes was a chronic and progressive disease. So what it means,

of course, is that you can't reverse it. That's what they're telling people. And the funny part was

that even as they said this, everybody knew it was just a big lie. If you lost weight,

the type 2 diabetes usually got way better or went away completely. So it was obvious that it was

reversible. We just weren't hitting the right things. And what had happened, I think, is that the

doctors had been just giving tons of drugs for these conditions, not understanding that it was a

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