522: The Protein Lie Midlife Women Have Been Told (And What to Do Instead) with Angelo Keely
Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill: Fat Loss, Hormones & Health for Women Over 40
Natalie Jill
4.8 • 635 Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2026
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
What if the protein you've been so carefully tracking is giving you a fraction of the muscle-building benefit you think it is?
That question stopped me in my tracks, and I think it's going to stop you too. I brought Angelo Keely back to the show for exactly this conversation. Angelo is the CEO and co-founder of Kion, and he works alongside the top scientists in protein and amino acid research. Our last episode together changed how I think about protein entirely, and this one went deeper.
Here's what we get into: your protein needs don't decrease as you age, they actually go up, and most of us don't know why. Angelo explains what's happening at the cellular level when you eat protein, why a smaller amount of steak eaten alone can outperform a much larger portion eaten with your vegetables, and what that means for how you're fueling your body every single day. He also breaks down why BCAAs are largely a waste of money (and might actually be working against you), what the research actually says about creatine for women (it does not make your muscles bigger, and the bloating fear is mostly myth), and how to think about leucine, essential amino acids, and what to look for on a supplement label so you're not getting ripped off.
If you're on a GLP-1, dieting, or just trying to hold onto muscle as you age, the section on caloric deficits and amino acid needs alone is worth the entire listen. The research Angelo shares from Department of Defense-funded studies will completely reframe how you think about cutting calories and preserving muscle at the same time.
This one is practical, science-backed, and genuinely eye-opening. Angelo is one of the clearest voices in nutrition science when it comes to cutting through the noise, and I always leave our conversations with something I can actually use.
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| 0:00.0 | We're doing everything as right as midlife women. |
| 0:02.3 | We're eating enough protein or we're trying to. |
| 0:04.0 | We're lifting weights. |
| 0:05.0 | We're staying consistent and we are still losing muscle or being told that we might lose muscle. |
| 0:11.0 | Something is off. |
| 0:12.0 | And today I finally have the answer for you. |
| 0:14.0 | So here's the thing. |
| 0:15.0 | We can be eating plenty of protein and still getting the muscle building signal that we think we are. But then there's this whole |
| 0:22.3 | idea of we're not really getting it in. It's not working. We're not necessarily absorbing it all |
| 0:31.7 | and utilizing it all. And then there's this whole creatine conversation because you've been seeing |
| 0:36.2 | that everywhere. I know. I have to. And wondering, is this actually for us or is it just for people in the fitness industry or bodybuilders? We're going to be answering that today. I personally do take both. I take aminos to help me with my protein and recovery. I also do take creatin. Men life isn't falling apart. It's changing. And for a lot of |
| 0:56.1 | women, it can feel confusing, frustrating, or overwhelming. And if your body feels different, |
| 1:00.9 | hormones feel unpredictable. Fat loss feels harder and stress hits differently than it used to. |
| 1:06.0 | You are not broken. You're just in midlife. Hi, I'm Natalie Jill and this is midlife conversations. The podcast |
| 1:13.2 | where I take complicated health topics and break them down assembly so you actually understand |
| 1:18.2 | what's happening in your body and what to do next. I have honest, fascinating conversations |
| 1:23.8 | with leading doctors and experts about hormones, gut, thyroid health, blood sugar, |
| 1:28.0 | weight management, brain health, emotional well-being, relationships, and navigating this special |
| 1:32.7 | season of life with clarity and confidence. No fear tactics. No extremes, just real conversations |
| 1:39.2 | and practical insights to help you feel confident, capable, in control of your health again. |
| 1:44.5 | So today I have the perfect guest. I've got Angelo Kili. He's the CEO and co-founder |
| 1:52.2 | of Kian, and he works directly with the top scientists in protein and amino acid research. |
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