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The Minimalists
Joshua Fields Millburn
4.7 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
The Minimalists speak with Dr. Maya Shankar about letting go of insecurities, the consequences of jealousy, why you've wasted so much money on things you don't need (and what to do about it going forward), how clinging to just-in-case items negatively affects well-being, and more.
Discussed in this episode:
How do you let go of insecurities that create mental clutter? (2:42)
When's the last time you felt jealous, and how did that change your behavior? (22:53)
Right Here, Right Now: The Simple Newsletter and Simplify Everything (46:31)
Listener Tip: When we finally let go, we discover the blockage those things had on our well-being. (47:49)
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Detailed show notes: minimalists.com/podcast
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Every little thing that you think that you think that you need. |
| 0:23.6 | Every little thing you think that you need. |
| 0:28.6 | Every little thing that's just feeding your greed. |
| 0:33.6 | Oh, I bet that you be fine without it. |
| 0:45.3 | Yes, welcome to The Minimalist Podcast, where we discuss what it means to live a meaningful life with less. My name is Joshua Fields, Millburn, and joining me here at our studio in beautiful West Hollywood, California, is my good friend T.K. Coleman. |
| 0:53.3 | It's a beautiful day. It is indeed because we have a special |
| 0:56.2 | guest today as well. Today's guest is a cognitive scientist who has earned degrees from Stanford, |
| 1:02.3 | Oxford, and Yale. Now, I know that's not Kalamazoo Community College, TK, but it's going to have |
| 1:08.7 | to do for this conversation, right? |
| 1:17.5 | She's also the host of the critically acclaimed podcast, a slight change of plans, and the author of a new book. |
| 1:18.5 | I've got it right here, the other side of change. |
| 1:22.0 | Please welcome to the show, Dr. Maya Shunker. |
| 1:26.9 | Yeah, so good to have you. |
| 1:28.4 | Thank you guys so much for having me. |
| 1:30.2 | Well, you know, this is a listener-driven show. |
| 1:33.2 | We got a lot to talk about today. |
| 1:35.2 | I'm looking forward to diving a little bit into the topics of the book. |
| 1:37.7 | We're going to talk about change a bit. |
| 1:39.6 | But I want to talk to you about letting go of insecurities, the consequences of jealousy, |
| 1:45.6 | how clinging to just-in-case items negatively affects our well-being. In fact, we're going to pull you into our |
| 1:51.7 | world of minimalism for a bit as well. Plus, coming up on page three, we'll discuss why you've |
| 1:57.2 | wasted so much money on things you don't need. Not you personally. |
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