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Conspirituality

52: The Clerical Class of the Right (w/Alex Ebert)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2021

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

This week we learned that Melinda Gates was disturbed by Bill’s men’s-club relationship with Jeffrey Epstein all the way back in 2011. And for fuck sake: when Bill visited Epstein’s Manhattan lair, reports say, he counseled the predator on image rehab while Epstein counseled Bill on his loveless marriage. Are the conspiritualists right, and about what? Matthew will revisit an earlier essay on Gates, and fill in some blind spots.Derek tackles the obscene co-optation of trans activism by anti-vaxxers who now pledge to lie about their status by “identifying as vaccinated.” In keeping with our musical theme, Julian reminisces about playing protest rock under an assumed name and the threat of a bomb under the stage during the Apartheid years in South Africa.In our feature interview, world-weary rock star Alex Ebert—frontman for Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros—joins Derek to map out the late 20th-century slide into infinitely co-opted creativity and revolution. They discuss the reasons America could use death rituals, the rise of Trump as the ultimate New Ager, wellness influencers as “the clerical class of the right,” and to ask if critical thinking and open-eyed spirituality are the new punk rock—and for how long.Show NotesThe NYT reported in the fall of 2019 that Gates was a frequent guest of Epstein in ManhattanA description from Town and Country of Epstein’s mansionSources at many meetings describe the Gates-Epstein vibeSex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly SimplisticThe Gene: An Intimate History | Siddhartha MukherjeeInside the Republican Anti-Transgender MachineGender-affirming surgery linked to better mental health, study finds“Identify As” Twitter thread -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

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Hey everyone, welcome to Conspirituality. I'm Derek Barris.

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I'm Matthew Rumsky. I'm Julian Walker.

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You can stay up to date with us on all of our social media channels including

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Facebook, Instagram and YouTube as well as patreon.com slash

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Conspirituality where you can support us for as little as $5 a month and get

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access to our Monday bonus episodes. Matthew and Joanne were just explaining

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to me this week's episode they're going to do together.

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So that'll be unique and I think you want to hear that conversation.

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Episode 52, the clerical class of the right with Alex Ebert.

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Hey, what 52? That means it's a year.

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All right. Plus the plus the two that we did on the front end.

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Yeah. Officially, officially the first two with Earthrise podcast.

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But congratulations. Happy birthday.

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Yeah. Happy that this is one year officially as Conspirituality.

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I'm like, what did I screw up? Good, good Lord.

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Okay. Let's go for it. Wow. Amazing guys. Thank you.

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This week we learned that Melinda Gates was disturbed by Bill's men's club

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relationship with Jeffrey Epstein all the way back to 2011.

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And for fuck's sake, when Bill visited Epstein's Manhattan Lair,

1:34.0

reports say he counseled the predator on image rehab while Epstein

1:39.0

counseled Bill on his loveless marriage.

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