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Hey, Sam, unleash the power with him.

Jason Waller here, True Underdog podcast.

Super excited about our guests today.

The Darren McCarty, the enforcer, four-time cup champion, entrepreneur in cannabis.

He's an author, and he was in a band. Is there anything I miss? Because you do a lot of stuff. I'm an entertainer, which means slash them. Don't call me a comedian because they get mad and I only have like one feeling. So I'm an entertainer, not a comedian. I do travel around and some people might call it stand up and I just call it life. Well, hey, listen, Darren, I'm a huge fan. We got to talk a little bit before we started this. You know, and for the listeners out there, you know, we're nationwide, worldwide, but for the local Detroit folks, you're a hero. You're a hometown hero because you have fought for the Red Wings. You've been a part of Detroit. You're still here after all your years with the Detroit Red Wings. You won four cups. You're known as the enforcer, the brawler. You fought for your teammates. You fought for what you believed in. For those listening out there, you're going to have to Google. You can see the fight with Colorado Amvalage. Not once, but twice there was huge fights where the goalies went

and met in the middle. I'm going to ask you about that in a minute as well. But, you know, here on the True Underdog, we want to talk about that part of your life. And then we want to talk about what you've done since then. And there's been some ups and downs. And you've had to overcome a lot of things with, you know, drug addiction, depression, things that you had to overcome outside of playing hockey.

And then here you are.

We were talking, you know, drug addiction, depression, things that you had to overcome outside of

playing hockey. And then here you are. We were talking, you are full of energy, you know,

full of happiness, excited about what you're doing. So let's jump right in. We'll talk about

hockey first. You joined the Red Wings early on and you came on and you were an enforcer.

And when you first joined the team, was the team very good at that time?

They were getting there.

I mean, unfortunately, it was in that, like, when I say, and first, let me just say, Jason,

I'm a big fan of yours because of what you do and somebody that I look up to in this community that I always

say I'm going to throw it right here because you're like me that you'll say it once and do it twice

and it's about so right now for you to say that I love life and I love finding and letting

people know hey you know what these are the good people.

Don't tell me what, tell me who.

So getting back to the hockey question when I came in 93, like you got to look at it now.

Okay, if you're a Detroit Red Wing fan, we're building where the team is because Steve

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