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Hey, hey, welcome to another edition of the podcast. The guest this time is someone I've

known for a low-over-year is a fascinating, fascinating dude, a true scholar, like literally

a scholar of Buddhism, the old school Buddhism, what's known as the Polly Cannon. He actually

speaks Polly, which is the ancient Indian language that the Buddha spoke and taught in.

But if that makes you at all nervous, you shouldn't be because he's an incredibly down

to earth guy, a big beer drinking mellow dude who just is incredibly smart and really

interested in Buddhism and really very skeptical about some of the claims of his fellow Buddhists,

which is really interesting to hear. He's got a new book that is fantastic, it's called

Untangling Self. The subtitle is a Buddhist investigation of who we really are. And what

he does is he makes the least comprehensible part of Buddhism, which is this idea that the

self is an illusion, which a lot of people get really hung up on. But actually, if you explain

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