From Relay FM, this is Upgrade,, 518 for June 24, 2024.

This episode is brought to you by Square Space,

Vitali, KRCS and Ladder.

My name is Mike Hurley and I'm joined by my fun summer co-host Jason Snell.

Hangin' loose over here Mike.

Whoa! Happy, Happy episode 518.

Get ready to ride the rip call of this Snell Talk, which comes in from Bromwin and is summer themed.

Thank goodness.

Jason, when you enter a body of water that you suspect may be chilly, are you a tow tester or do you are you a jump

straight inner? Oh, tow tester for sure. Yeah, tow tautester. And in fact, then if it proves to be not incredibly warm, I will, I am a gradualer. I'm a gradualer. I prefer to just very slowly psych myself up as I get deeper and deeper into the water until finally I reach a point of no return and I give up and I completely submerge.

That's just how I do it.

You're quite different to me.

Let me tell you.

Interesting.

You jump straight enter?

No, I'm actually something in the middle.

I confidently move right so like if I'm going to a

pool and I get into the steps I just go I just walk through you know I so you don't you

don't jump in but you you stride yes at a constant rate I just don't stop right and like I'm walking down the steps and as soon as my feet touch the ground I'm going going under. Don't stop.

That's me.

Straight under, do a lap, and I'm good to go.

Or, you know, straight under.

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