Cassandra Vieten is Executive Director of the John W. Brick Foundation, Scholar-in-Residence at the Arthur C. Clarke Center for Human Imagination at the University of California, San Diego, and a Senior Fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences where she worked for 18 years and served as President and CEO from 2013-2019. She is a psychologist, mind-body medicine researcher, author of numerous articles in scientific journals, and an internationally recognized keynote speaker. Her research has focused on spirituality and health, transformative experiences and practices, and the development of mindfulness-based interventions for emotional well-being. She received her Ph.D. in clinical psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and completed her research training in behavioral genetics at UCSF. She is the author of Mindful Motherhood: Practical Tools for Staying Sane During Pregnancy and Your Child's First Year, and co-author of Living Deeply: The Art and Science of Transformation in Everyday Life, and Spiritual and Religious Competencies in Clinical Practice: Guidelines for Psychotherapists and Mental Health Professionals. Her current projects focus on how mental health care be transformed so that it includes fitness/movement, nutrition, mind-body, and clients’ spiritual and religious beliefs and practices (when relevant) to foster mental and emotional fitness and well-being; what environmental and internal conditions, agents, practices, and states of consciousness stimulate imagination – in particular, the ability to see new possibilities; how cognitive, social and neuroscience along with practices from the world’s wisdom traditions can foster positive change in individuals and in our world (see Consciousness, Communication and Change program and Campaign Science for the political and activist arena), and how introducing people to awe-inspiring ideas and environments can stretch their imagination or help them see things from a new perspective, leading to self-transcendence, shifts in worldview and perspective on life, and other prosocial emotions and behaviors. Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded September 14, 2019 Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Science and Spirituality as Means of Understanding Reality 00:05:25 - Self-realization and the Gita 00:07:45 - A Blissful Epiphany in Space 00:10:40 - The Combination of Science and Spirituality 00:13:40 - The Role of Intuition and Creativity in Inventions 00:15:46 - Reluctance in the scientific community towards psychic phenomena 00:18:17 - History repeating itself 00:21:06 - Paradigm Shifts and Robust Studies 00:23:50 - The Importance of Critical Thinking in Science 00:27:54 - Presenting climate change to skeptics and the importance of collective thinking 00:31:30 - The Power of Authenticity in Activism 00:35:08 - Awakening and Change 00:38:20 - Taking Practice off the Mat: Fierce Love and Social Justice 00:41:38 - The Practice of Perspective 00:45:26 - Destiny and Enlightenment 00:48:31 - The Misunderstanding of Awakening 00:52:04 - The Normalization of Vulnerability and Self-Reflection 00:54:49 - Communicating for Change 00:58:08 - The Institute of Noetic Sciences 01:01:36 - Transformative Education and Spiritual Practices 01:04:56 - The Future of Meditation Science and Research 01:08:30 - The Complexities of Individual Perception 01:12:14 - Exploring the Nature of Reality 01:15:47 - Speculating on the Rules of Robotics 01:18:54 - The Role of Futurists 01:22:17 - Embracing Solutionism 01:25:23 - The Three Key Areas of Focus 01:28:25 - Shifting Perspectives and Fostering Imagination 01:31:56 - The Ripple Effect 01:34:57 - The Future of Virtual Reality Experience