I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing so well today, Tim. Thank you so much for asking. I hope the listeners are doing well as well.

And this episode, I've been really anticipating its release. I've been eager to hear what the

listeners are going to think about this. The guest is really different. It's a really different

type of guests that we have on today. There is some crime-ish conversation that's happening,

but Tim, I'm very ish on your mood.

Can you tell me exactly how you're feeling today? I'm feeling all right. Thanks a lot for asking.

And yeah, very, very interesting conversation today with Shaheen Cheyenne. And this conversation

ranges from his background to the drug he produced for clubgoers.

And it definitely brushed against illegalities.

And it sort of shook up the, well, the government.

They got involved because I think Shaheen, he may say

because they wanted their cut, they would probably tell you for safety. So you can see how this

conversation is going to have two sides to it. Exactly. And there's actually one part of this

conversation where he says, oh, I've never done anything illegal. And we have a laugh about it because he says right after that, so is the interview over, because he's on a true crime show.

So we make a joke about how this is just kind of, again, brushing up against the crime conversation.

He created this alternative to MDMA.

Ecstasy.

It was a natural alternative that wasn't chemical based, according to his

recipe. Apparently he made millions and millions when he was 16, 17, 18 years old. And once that

ended for him, he began this lifelong career as an entrepreneur. He also wrote a book called

Billion, how he became the king of the thrill pill cult.

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