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I think it's really beautiful. Jesus, it's what I struggle, you know? It was incredible. It was like your head exploded, seeing what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person. Everybody has a going. Welcome to the Other People podcast. It's good to be with you. I'm Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles. I have Natalia Sylvester on the program today. She has a new novel out from Little A Books. It is called Everyone Knows You Go Home. Natalia Sylvester is coming up in just a second.

I am just back from walking the dog. I just want to file a grievance. I have a couple of grievances,

one of which was, you know, I was reading Twitter and it reminded me of a grievance. I have a couple of grievances, one of which was, you know,

I was reading Twitter and it reminded me of this grievance that I have and have long harbored.

And then I also, just now as a result of walking my dog, was reminded of another. So the first

thing I want to bitch about is this trend that I have noticed lately in Los Angeles,

particularly up in the hills on hiking trails where people are wearing like wearable speakers.

So instead of wearing earbuds like a normal civilized human being,

have I talked about this before?

I always have that sense that I'm repeating myself

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